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The Clutch is Vague

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Manual shoppersI hope this is just journalistic hyperbole then a serious actuality...

Three-pedal versions of this Scion are a bit tricky to drive smoothly. The clutch is super light and its engagement point quite vague. Throw in an embarrassing paucity of low-RPM torque and you have a combination that can challenge even veteran motorists. Fortunately, hill-start assist is standard so you don’t roll backwards on inclines. Additionally, the iM’s shifter is less than satisfying, with long throws and quite a bit of sloppiness as it moves from gate to gate
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lol...i think this is how the car should be like.. my Celica does that all the time...and i like it
For what it's worth, this is exactly what the reviewers say about the Corolla 6MT. I suspect they are the same unit (can anyone verify that?) I asked for feedback on the 6MT on one of the Corolla forums, and the general consensus is that it's perfectly fine once you've been driving it for a few days. It might not be as good as a Mazda unit, but the reviewers are probably exaggerating, which isn't a surprise given that they were hopping back and forth between the iM and the iA with its superior Mazda 6MT.
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For what it's worth, this is exactly what the reviewers say about the Corolla 6MT. I suspect they are the same unit (can anyone verify that?) I asked for feedback on the 6MT on one of the Corolla forums, and the general consensus is that it's perfectly fine once you've been driving it for a few days. It might not be as good as a Mazda unit, but the reviewers are probably exaggerating, which isn't a surprise given that they were hopping back and forth between the iM and the iA with its superior Mazda 6MT.
One review actually said exactly that. The iM isn't bad, but when you hop into the iA with the Mazda sourced 'box the iM then starts to feel sluggish and vague. I can't remember which pub, might of been autoguide?
For what it's worth, this is exactly what the reviewers say about the Corolla 6MT. I suspect they are the same unit (can anyone verify that?) I asked for feedback on the 6MT on one of the Corolla forums, and the general consensus is that it's perfectly fine once you've been driving it for a few days. It might not be as good as a Mazda unit, but the reviewers are probably exaggerating, which isn't a surprise given that they were hopping back and forth between the iM and the iA with its superior Mazda 6MT.
Can you post a link to the Corolla forum?
Can you post a link to the Corolla forum?
I test drove a 2015 Corolla S Plus 6MT on saturday..the car shift is less aggressive then my FR-S does. But it does it job, response quick, again this is a Corolla.

I am expecting it would shift the same on iM...I would like to get a short shifter for the iM..because the one in Corolla is kinda long IMO.

There are sure aftermarket parts to help increase the sport feel on the car. I seem people put FR-S front lip on a 2015 Corolla S Plus..I was surprise on that...I am very glad see car enthusiastic no matter you drive a STi or a Corolla S plus...

I drive a FR-S..and I am very glad to have the car.
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That doesn't sound too bad at all then, being "less aggressive" than the FR-S sure is better than having a difference between the two that's much wide apart.

I bet even a short throw in that Corolla would serve it well, shorter throws are almost always better.
Can you post a link to the Corolla forum?
Sorry I didn't see this sooner! Here's the thread I started a while back:

Thoughts on 6MT? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums
Sorry I didn't see this sooner! Here's the thread I started a while back:

Thoughts on 6MT? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums
Thanks for the link! I already posted my question over there.
Sorry I didn't see this sooner! Here's the thread I started a while back:

Thoughts on 6MT? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums
Reading through the comments, it sucks to see that some folks opted out of a manual due to the busy commutes they'll need the vehicle for.

When it comes to stop and go traffic... i always found it to be helpful to stay in first and try to keep rolling, much unlike most folks that race from bumper to bumper.
Reading through the comments, it sucks to see that some folks opted out of a manual due to the busy commutes they'll need the vehicle for.

When it comes to stop and go traffic... i always found it to be helpful to stay in first and try to keep rolling, much unlike most folks that race from bumper to bumper.
i do the same..keep it on 1st gear...let the car rolling;)
Cool cars sounds

Like the cool engine sounds in this video.Talks about getting used to the clutch travel....




https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=14&v=cSCh-0bpyu0
very nice vid. thanks for share
Not bad at all, some people only need the springs but of course there will be those of us that want more as in coilovers, usually TRD springs are a good enough entry-level step away from OEM setups.
Not bad at all, some people only need the springs but of course there will be those of us that want more as in coilovers, usually TRD springs are a good enough entry-level step away from OEM setups.
compare to other competitor in the market, iM does has a low clearance already
but still that is my first set of modding..swap the spring (maybe TRD, or sth else). lowered the car to 0.75-1" on the wheel gap.

wish to see more iM enthusiastic on the forum in near future
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