[Don Neville]

Had a quick look through the forum and have been googling for an answer but coming up with nothing.

Are there any software/firmware updates for the Pioneer stereo in our iM's; either for the stereo or even Gracenote?

Thanks!

 

[davect01]

Nothing I'm aware of.

What are you looking for?

 

[prescottn6ft7]

It will be interesting to see if Toyota continues to use the same headunit in these cars for the 2017 Corolla iM ... if not then there will most likely never be any updates.

 

[blueBallz]

It will be interesting to see if Toyota continues to use the same headunit in these cars for the 2017 Corolla iM ... if not then there will most likely never be any updates.

i don't think toyota issues the updates. You can get this Pioneer for any car in the aftermarket it just won't say Scion when it turns on. If you're ok with that there's probably software for that specific headunit and gracenote that needs to be found. does anyone know the model of the radio?

 

[prescottn6ft7]

i don't think toyota issues the updates. You can get this Pioneer for any car in the aftermarket it just won't say Scion when it turns on. If you're ok with that there's probably software for that specific headunit and gracenote that needs to be found. does anyone know the model of the radio?

Nope. This headunit is not available to the public. The Toyota part no is: PT546-00160 and the Pioneer Headunit model number is: AVH-2558. Back in September last year when I bought the car and took apart the dash I contacted Pioneer asking for support in whether or not there were any modules that would create RCA jacks that would use any of the non-used OEM jacks on the back of the stereo... Pioneer's response was "contact the dealer, we do not support OEM headunits manufactured for car makers"

:nerd:

Link to manuals: http://www.scionimforum.com/forum/e...ng/3513-scion-audio-system-owners-manual.html

 

[blueBallz]

Nope. This headunit is not available to the public. The Toyota part no is: PT546-00160 and the Pioneer Headunit model number is: AVH-2558. Back in September last year when I bought the car and took apart the dash I contacted Pioneer asking for support in whether or not there were any modules that would create RCA jacks that would use any of the non-used OEM jacks on the back of the stereo... Pioneer's response was "contact the dealer, we do not support OEM headunits manufactured for car makers"

:nerd:

Link to manuals: http://www.scionimforum.com/forum/e...ng/3513-scion-audio-system-owners-manual.html

what?! that's crazy! who would have thunk lol

 

[davect01]

what?! that's crazy! who would have thunk lol

Um ya. Most headunits installed by automakers are this way.

 

[ovmech]

Just some info. See image.

 

[ovmech]

The reason I have some interest in this is because I'm one of those guys who gets the cheap radio and replaces it. I'm old school so now with all the fancy steering wheel controls, amplified antennas and back up camera it doesn't make it easy anymore. Without ripping into the car more than I want I guess I could add some better speakers and add my own dash mounted GPS NAV. Reading some other forums and watching some videos made me not want to do it. But..... check ebay, youtube with some search terms and maybe you'll hit something. I saw you mentioned RCA adapter.

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-RB10-Auxiliary-Adapter-Headunits/dp/B00091UOCY

 

[davect01]

The reason I have some interest in this is because I'm one of those guys who gets the cheap radio and replaces it. I'm old school so now with all the fancy steering wheel controls, amplified antennas and back up camera it doesn't make it easy anymore. Without ripping into the car more than I want I guess I could add some better speakers and add my own dash mounted GPS NAV. Reading some other forums and watching some videos made me not want to do it. But..... check ebay, youtube with some search terms and maybe you'll hit something. I saw you mentioned RCA adapter.

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-RB10-Auxiliary-Adapter-Headunits/dp/B00091UOCY

1- The headunit is pretty good, I am no hurry to replace it.

2- I use my phone's GPS, so I don't need the GPS option. The only downside is that my phone's GPS requires a data connection. 90% of the time, I am fine. If taking a long trip, you can download the required maps ahead of time in case of bad connection locations.

3- CD player. This headunit does not have one. If you want to use your CD's you are out of luck.

4- Android Auto/Car Play. I wish these were on the unit. I can use my phone via bluetooth, but these mirroring programs are much better.

5- Sub output. The headunit does not have one. You have to buy a separate unit that creates a signal for the sub amp, but a sub output is much better.

 

[blueBallz]

found this gracenote update on the iA page, can't find the same page for the iM, i doubt it's any different since it's only a database of album covers
http://scion-en-us.visteoninfotainment.com/how-to-update-gracenote

 

[blueBallz]

well i tried everything i could to update the database but got nowhere, for some reason it won't read the update file and i can't even begin to update it. really wish i could just disable gracenote and use my own album info off my phone.

 

[CAD-Man]

You should be careful trying the iA update, the iA is not a Pioneer head unit.

CAD-Man

 

[Aprime]

well i tried everything i could to update the database but got nowhere, for some reason it won't read the update file and i can't even begin to update it. really wish i could just disable gracenote and use my own album info off my phone.

You fuckin' serial m8

They're totally different designs made by different companies running different software altogether. The iA's runs on a UNIX (Android I think even) base that can sideload apps. This headunit is your fully proprietary crap that Toyota still insists on forcing down people's throats because they (to an extent, rightfully) refuse to relinquish control of infotainment to third parties (Apple/Google) the way a lot of automakers are.

 

[davect01]

Totally

You should be careful trying the iA update, the iA is not a Pioneer head unit.

CAD-Man

Um, ya. Totally different headunit.

 

[blueBallz]

jeez you guys are acting like you've never flashed anything in your life lol.

 

[davect01]

jeez you guys are acting like you've never flashed anything in your life lol.

Ya, but I don't try and install Apple software onto my Android phone. The headunits you are discussing are totally different.

If we are missing something, then perhaps you did not explain well what you are trying to do.

 

[blueBallz]

it's not software, it's a database, that's like copying an excel sheet from your windows pc to a mac.

 

[Nick Prescott]

jeez you guys are acting like you've never flashed anything in your life lol.

it's not software, it's a database, that's like copying an excel sheet from your windows pc to a mac.

What is it that you do? That is a terrible analogy. Excel is notorious for compatibility issues when moving files between OSX and Windows operating systems... macro issues, table corruption, incompatible formulas.

The update you're trying to flash is for a Mazda 2... I mean Scion iA infotainment system. The files used may be in a completely different file format than what the Scion Pioneer Headunit needs to read. For instance just doing a little looking around; other Mazda models update using just one *.up file where as other Pioneer Headunits update using 6 different files *.txt, *.idx, *.inf, *.mdt,*.udt,*.mdx

 

[blueBallz]

What is it that you do? That is a terrible analogy. Excel is notorious for compatibility issues when moving files between OSX and Windows operating systems... macro issues, table corruption, incompatible formulas.

The update you're trying to flash is for a Mazda 2... I mean Scion iA infotainment system. The files used may be in a completely different file format than what the Scion Pioneer Headunit needs to read. For instance just doing a little looking around; other Mazda models update using just one *.up file where as other Pioneer Headunits update using 6 different files *.txt, *.idx, *.inf, *.mdt,*.udt,*.mdx

you're talking about a software update, i'm talking about a gracenote database update which uses the same exact file type but is still not compatible with our headunit for some reason.