[AutoGuide.com]

Scion announced plans today for the 2015 New York Auto Show where it will debut two new vehicles.

The first will be a production version of the iM concept that it showcased during the Los Angeles Auto Show in November, 2014. When it debuted in concept form, Scion said it planned to begin producing the car – based on the Toyota Auris – in 2015. Details on the five-door compact hatchback are still unannounced, but that wasn’t all the news from Toyota’s youth-oriented brand today.

It also confirmed plans to debut a sedan in New York. Details on that car are even sketchier, but its debut will mark the first time Scion has a sedan in its lineup. The company hasn’t announced anything about the sedan apart from plans to show it in some form during this year’s New York Auto Show, but we have previously reported, the sedan will be based on the same architecture as the new Mazda2 being built in Salamanca, Mexico.

Scion desperately needs new products. Sales were down by 15 percent in 2014 and there wasn’t a single nameplate. Worse still, sales shrunk for every Scion nameplate. The tC, Scion’s top volume seller, moved 17,947 copies last year representing a six percent decrease, which was also the least severe of of the brand.

Scion iM, New Sedan Confirmed for NY Debut » AutoGuide.com News

 

[SiM]

Interesting.... a sedan.

What are the chances it could be something that uses the corolla's platform which the iM uses?

 

[Filmore]

im saying camry something they get, or FRS sedan rumor comes true...

 

[Gotcha]

I wonder what an FRS sedan would look like. That could be very interesting to see and I think could be quite successful.

 

[Patrick.S]

FRS sedan would be great.
Seen renderings of what it could look like a while back.. if they can make it happen... there should be some great interest in it.

 

[Filmore]

I don't think FRS sedan legitimately goes down, I was just being facetious I believe Toyota needs Subaru on board for any changes to the joint venture, I don't think subaru has the appetite for a sedan...

 

[DBB]

As posted in another thread, perhaps the sedan they're bringing over could in fact be the Toyota Mark X? An FR sedan would square perfectly with Scions image as well as complement the FRS nicely...

Toyota Mark X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Filmore]

As posted in another thread, perhaps the sedan they're bringing over could in fact be the Toyota Mark X? An FR sedan would square perfectly with Scions image as well as complement the FRS nicely...

Toyota Mark X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It will be a rebadged Mazda 2 sedan (not sold in the NA market) Scion is about to have 2 cars competing with Toyotas Corolla... (and Yaris for that matter)

 

[Gotcha]

The Mazda 2 sedan looks great so that could be a good move for Scion. I have to say that I really like Mazda though so I would probably choose a Mazda 2 over a Scion version of the same vehicle.

 

[SiM]

If they can make that happen... it will do a lot of the brand. I know a lot of people wanted that sedan from Toyota Japan for a while now.

 

[Gotcha]

I am just wondering if the Scion sedan will differ enough from the Corolla to really draw in a lot of people. I am not convinced that Scion is going to make their sedan different enough from its Toyota parent car given what we have seen with the iM.

 

[Filmore]

If they can make that happen... it will do a lot of the brand. I know a lot of people wanted that sedan from Toyota Japan for a while now.

I know, it would be great as a low volume model in the lineup, akin to the Chevy SS perhaps. But the problem with low volume is low volume. It costs millions to homologate a vehicle for sale here, after jumping through all the hoops and paying the subsequent fees, a low volume car from a budget brand is certainly not going to amortize those costs any time quickly...

As much as I like the X, its just not viable...

 

[Filmore]

I am just wondering if the Scion sedan will differ enough from the Corolla to really draw in a lot of people. I am not convinced that Scion is going to make their sedan different enough from its Toyota parent car given what we have seen with the iM.

Well we're fairly sure Scions sedan won't be a Toyota (but a Mazda, see above)... do you think that will make their sedan different enough from Toyota?

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[Gotcha]

Well we're fairly sure Scions sedan won't be a Toyota (but a Mazda, see above)... do you think that will make their sedan different enough from Toyota?

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It might be a good way to show that Scion is different from Toyota. I do question a bit if the lineup will look cohesive though. Right now Scion is a bit of a mish-mash of many different styles of vehicles and design.

 

[SiM]

I know, it would be great as a low volume model in the lineup, akin to the Chevy SS perhaps. But the problem with low volume is low volume. It costs millions to homologate a vehicle for sale here, after jumping through all the hoops and paying the subsequent fees, a low volume car from a budget brand is certainly not going to amortize those costs any time quickly...

As much as I like the X, its just not viable...

good point and last I checked here scion wanted volume, they want to grow the brand. definitely see something to support that

 

[Gotcha]

Didn't we pretty much decide that the sedan will be a Mazda 2 based vehicle? That is pretty much for sure, is it not?

 

[Filmore]

here...

Struggling Scion To Get Mazda2-Based Sedan, Auris-Based Hatchback, In Future?

 

[Patrick.S]

now that is quite the move
never would have thought they'll move away from using something toyota, which makes things even more interesting.
so far i'm liking the sounds of this.

Now, apparently, it's slated to get two new models--a subcompact hatchback based on the next-generation Mazda 2, and an additional compact model--within the next year or two.

 

[Patrick.S]

now that is quite the move
never would have thought they'll move away from using something toyota, which makes things even more interesting.
so far i'm liking the sounds of this.

any idea what that other compact model could be?

 

[Gotcha]

any idea what that other compact model could be?

I would assume that it would be something to do with a Toyota vehicle. I don't think that Scion is going to be rebadging another vehicle from outside the Toyota family.