[Filmore]

Before the iM even has an opportunity to debut Scion is already moving beyond that. Scion corporate manager Dave Harbuck let it be known that Scion will have two new production models on hand at the New York auto show next April.

The first car will most definitely be the productionized iM, however the second he has remained coy on. What Harbuck did say however was that it makes sense for Scion to leverage Toyota's expansive global portfolio.

So what's the early speculation? Well for one there is the Aygo city runabout however there are doubts about its ability to meet US crash ratings. Other options potentially include the Verso, a 7 seat tall hatchback, or the Urban Cruiser which is essentially an xD with AWD.

Sales peaked at 173,000 units in 2006 and last year they dwindled down to a meagre 68,000. Whatever Scion ends up bringing to New York the reality is things cannot get much worse...

 

[Gotcha]

At least this seems like Scion is trying to make a comeback. They haven't really come out with a new vehicle for the longest time. Do you think that Scion has the potential to rebound or is it already in the grave?

 

[Filmore]

At least this seems like Scion is trying to make a comeback. They haven't really come out with a new vehicle for the longest time. Do you think that Scion has the potential to rebound or is it already in the grave?

I'm just not sure if the name scion carries enough cachet. Toyota makes great product yes, but how many outside of diehards understand that a Scion is a Toyota? (yes I know they're sold in the same places)

 

[SiM]

What funny is guys are rebadging Scion FR-S as toyota's. It's cars like that which they should keep out of Scion's line up and just work making it separate from Toyota

 

[Gotcha]

Are you saying they should take the FRS and make it a Toyota? It actually could boost sales of the model, but it would be so sad to take away the one thing that Scion has going for it.

 

[Filmore]

Are you saying they should take the FRS and make it a Toyota? It actually could boost sales of the model, but it would be so sad to take away the one thing that Scion has going for it.

well this is the fundamental problem Scion has run up against. What they sell is too funky for the old white boy culture that Toyota appeals to, Scion is supposed to be the youthful exciting brand but it carries no connection with old exciting Toyota...

 

[SiM]

Looks like OP didn't bother to do research before posting this thread as it has been known the 'concept' Scion iM would make it's debut at the LA Auto Show, then months later a production model debut at the NAIAS Show...

Before the iM even has an opportunity to debut Scion is already moving beyond that.

 

[DBB]

The first car will most definitely be the productionized iM, however the second he has remained coy on. What Harbuck did say however was that it makes sense for Scion to leverage Toyota's expansive global portfolio.

So what's the early speculation? Well for one there is the Aygo city runabout however there are doubts about its ability to meet US crash ratings.

If I had to put money down they're going to be showing the Mazda 2 based sedan Autoguide was prattling on about back in June...

Perhaps more surprising is the addition of a conventional sedan to the youth-focused brand’s lineup. That car will actually be based on the upcoming next-gen Mazda2 platform.

Past reports have indicated the next-generation Yaris will also be based off the Mazda2 and will even use a Mazda engine. Production of the next-generation Mazda2 will begin at the company’s new plant in Salamanca, Mexico in mid-2015.

 

[SiM]

I see some information around the Mazda 2 getting the brands Kodo design language, which is something i can't wait to see when the time comes around for it's debut. If it's not already a vehicle that sells well and is competitive, this should give it the push it needs.