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post #21 of 26 Old 11-16-2017, 09:06 PM
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From what I've read on the iM, the manual is 0-60mph in 8.6 sec and the CVT 9.1 sec. The difference between the two in that regard is more psychological and touchy-feely than anything else.

I've driven nothing but manuals since my first car in 1982, but my next car will likely finally be an automatic. Manuals are great fun to drive under certain road/traffic conditions and a tedious experience in others (aka congested, stop and go traffic stretching for miles). The older I get, the more the latter has started to bug me. I've never driven a CVT but something tells me I would have to leave it in 'sport-mode' for the traditional shifting feel versus the disjointed rubber-band feel that I have read about. I really need to go test drive one just to see what people are ranting about when it comes to CVTs, lol.

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I would not buy iM if it was CVT only. I will always get a manual when it is available. In fact, when I am going to upgrade my car, I will most likely get another car with a manual. It could be 2018 Toyota Tacoma or 2018 Honda Accord 2.0 or even Nissan Sentra NISMO. Mitsubishi Outlander Sport is the only decent SUV I could find that has a manual (Jeep Renegade is a rebadged Fiat 500X, I drove both and they are junk. Jeep Wrangler is not my cup of tea. I can't stand childish styling of the Mini).

I may get an automatic down the road, but CVT is just no. I will resist buying a CVT unless there will be no other option.

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From what I've read on the iM, the manual is 0-60mph in 8.6 sec and the CVT 9.1 sec. The difference between the two in that regard is more psychological and touchy-feely than anything else.

I've driven nothing but manuals since my first car in 1982, but my next car will likely finally be an automatic. Manuals are great fun to drive under certain road/traffic conditions and a tedious experience in others (aka congested, stop and go traffic stretching for miles). The older I get, the more the latter has started to bug me. I've never driven a CVT but something tells me I would have to leave it in 'sport-mode' for the traditional shifting feel versus the disjointed rubber-band feel that I have read about. I really need to go test drive one just to see what people are ranting about when it comes to CVTs, lol.
I've seen many reports on the 6MT being 0-60 mph around 8.5 seconds and the CVT any where from 9.5 -10 seconds. I've driven both and the CVT is much slower and less responsive then the MT. The CVT feels similar to the MT when at speed but off the line from 0-30 mph it's a slug.

I've never understood the issues with driving a MT in traffic. Clutches are so light now and the left leg isn't doing anything anyway. I'm 55 now and I'll drive a MT in traffic any day without complaining.

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I test drove both and the auto i tried was way sluggish and didn't want to shift when I thought it should. told them to forget it as I was not interested. Then the sales manager said try the stick but they only have one and no others around within 150 miles, so after trying I was sold way better and faster than the auto I tried. The only thing I dont like about the stick is downshifting to pass, most time you need to drop 2 gears as the ratios are long...
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I test drove both and the auto i tried was way sluggish and didn't want to shift when I thought it should. told them to forget it as I was not interested. Then the sales manager said try the stick but they only have one and no others around within 150 miles, so after trying I was sold way better and faster than the auto I tried. The only thing I dont like about the stick is downshifting to pass, most time you need to drop 2 gears as the ratios are long...
Exactly my thinking. Although I came shopping for a manual, but then tried the CVT and hated it. The car had an appliance feel to it, manual makes iM more engaging and exciting.
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I test drove both and the auto i tried was way sluggish and didn't want to shift when I thought it should. told them to forget it as I was not interested. Then the sales manager said try the stick but they only have one and no others around within 150 miles, so after trying I was sold way better and faster than the auto I tried. The only thing I dont like about the stick is downshifting to pass, most time you need to drop 2 gears as the ratios are long...
I've found dropping 2 gears has been no big deal. Sometimes I've even gone from 6th to 4th directly.

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